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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Javier,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It’s worth noting that the visualisation of start & end tags in CQPweb is independent of one another. You can display just a start
tag. (Or have different visualisation of the start and the end, but that’s less relevant here.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So, you can simulate empty elements for pauses etc. using start tags (let cwb-encode fill in the end points wherever it likes, it doesn’t
matter, as you won ‘t use that data) and then create a visualisation for the start tag. Stefan mentioned this but I thought it was worth underlining…
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it [mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Javier Pueyo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 June 2018 20:19<br>
<b>To:</b> CWBdev Mailing List <cwb@sslmit.unibo.it><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWB] Empty XML tags not showing in CQP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Stefan,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When I read your second suggestion I had a light-bulb moment and decided to make "inf" an attribute of the "turn" tag (it is much better structurally and now I can show "turn_inf" in CQP, and hopefully visualize it in CQPWeb):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-S turn+id+inf <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">CORPUS> show +turn_inf;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">CORPUS> <turn> [word=".*"];<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">0: <<turn_inf E>okay> ya son las horas ah<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, I cannot apply the same solution to other empty tags I use in my corpus (like <silence/>, <noise/>, etc), since they may appear in any position within a given speech turn.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But being able to visualize "inf" was really important. Thanks for the clue!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Javier<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2018-06-12 12:04 GMT-04:00 Stefan Evert <<a href="mailto:stefanML@collocations.de" target="_blank">stefanML@collocations.de</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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> Is there any way I can make CQP to show empty XML tags in queries results (so I can visualize them in CQPWeb)?<br>
> <br>
> I have tags like these: <br>
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> <inf id="E1"></inf><br>
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> (because it seems that cwb-encode doesn't like the shorter form <inf id="E1"/>)<br>
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That's because CWB doesn't support empty XML elements. It accepts the long from with explicit start and end tags, but will simply ignore the empty regions.<br>
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In BNCweb, we store empty XML tags in a p-attribute that collects all tags that occur immediately before the respective token; a second p-attribute contains a pre-processed (feature set) representation for easier searching.<br>
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Unfortunately, CQPweb can't visualize arbitrary p-attributes yet, so this would help for searching but nor display. I think the only work around would be to move the end tags so that the XML element wraps the following token:<br>
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<turn><br>
<inf id="E"><br>
okay<br>
</inf><br>
ya<br>
son<br>
las<br>
horas<br>
ah<br>
</turn><br>
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and then define a suitable visualization for the start tag <inf> in CQPweb, but not for the end tag </inf>.<br>
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Best,<br>
Stefan<o:p></o:p></p>
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